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kmoI thought this post, "The Silencing of Catelyn Stark" expressed perfectly many of the feelings I (and others) have had regarding how the tv writers have chosen to portray Catelyn's character. Catelyn isn't even my favorite, but I've been hurt by what I've seen as a dumbing down of her character. I also think she suffers from what others have termed the "Skyler White Effect"- where women (often wives and mothers) who stand up to the male anti-hero's fun anti-heroing (selling meth, being a serial killer, trying to become King in the North) are universally hated by fandom as shrews and wet blankets. Not just Catelyn and Skyler but also Carmela Soprano, Betty and Megan Draper, Rita from Dexter, even Kima from s5 of The Wire fall victim to this trope. Anywho, it's an interesting article and the comments are interesting, too. While I've really enjoyed the complexity GoT has brought to Margaery, Melisandre, Brienne, and Cersei, I feel like it often tends to fall back on cliched tropes as shorthand for telling a story- especially the whole mess in the Riverlands that is Robb, Catelyn and Talisa.
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Help me procrastinate today with this Writing Process meme stolen from
likeadeuce Pick one of my fics and a question (or questions) and I'll tell you:
1. What part was most difficult?
2. What are you most proud of?
3. What's a reference you made no one has picked up on yet?
4. What's a bit that sums up your take on a character?
5. Favorite line(s) of dialogue?
6. Favorite lines(s) of prose?
7. Were there any points where you were trying to do something specific with sound, vocabulary, or rhythm?
8. How many drafts did the work go through?
9. Were you listening to anything while writing the fic? If so, what?
10. Imagery that is important to the fic, either while composing or in the fic itself?
11. What were you most worried about during the composition?
12. How do you want readers to react to this fic?
13. What did you want them to take away from it?
14. What inspired this fic?
15. If you used a beta, what did you agree or disagree on?
16. Did anything surprise you during the writing?
17. Were any parts written under the influence Unless coffee counts, I never drink and write!
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Date: 2013-06-19 08:00 pm (UTC)it's weird for me to be coming to Cat's defense, because i never really enjoyed her POV as much as others. (that might change if i do a re-read at some point) and i think the reason Cat's POV feels off is because GRRM purposefully subverts the readers expectation of where the focus should be. we feel like the focus should be on Robb, the boy-savior king, who is the "natural" fantasy protagonist....instead it's on his mom. i think my issue is that GRRM and Vince Gilligan and other creators say they are trying to do something different by giving a mother or wife's perspective but the execution IMO leaves something to be desired.
hey, thanks for asking! i originally wanted to work "room of one's own" somehow into the title, but i just couldn't make it work
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Date: 2013-06-19 08:12 pm (UTC)I do wonder if it has something to do w/ Catelyn not interacting with other women b/c the only stuff that stands out to me about her in the novel is related to Brienne.
I do wonder if maybe the show is not that good at relationships b/t adult men & women that don't have some kind of romantic or sexual angle. (See both Jaime/Brienne and Arya/Gendry feeling more straightforwardly shippy on the show). But I might be reaching.
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Date: 2013-06-19 11:17 pm (UTC)heh, i blame the Arya/Gendry shipping on the actor having like the most amazing set of abs.